it was saying that lincoln was right when lincoln said that the united states is dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. that was a pretty radical thing that lincoln did. that was not something most americans thought that the constitution was written. as you know, we had slavery. lincoln read that as of forward-looking idea. lou: when he wrote that -- when he wrote that he was standing on the shoulders of those who had founded this nation and you had written the declaration. redneck constitution. equality was fundamental and mps book documents. that country's history, if i may say. professor, we appreciate you -- i'm sorry. very quickly. >> i was going to say, we always had this tension between equality and liberty. i think the speech today was trying to push us in the equality direction. >> liberty. lou: professor, were going to have to bring you back and continue the conversation. much more on inauguration day. we talking with the "a-team" straight ahead. the hostage crisis in the middle of the sahara. more americans confirmed dead. details next. inauguration fiasco. wa